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#61 Death_Eater

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 09:54 PM

I just want to know why Zetsu is so OP too... I mean he does almost nothing, during the gara recovery stuff... But would explain how Obito knows Zetsu move through stuff justu.
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 10:30 PM

Crossing fingers to be someone who just possessed Obito. Which would explain why he's so intent on Sasuke's eyes getting stronger...he wants Sasuke's body next.

Please, just don't let it be that Obito just so happened to have a 180 personality change, a massive increase in power, a huge increase in knowledge, and inexplicably wanting to project onto the moon a Genjutsu that his eyes cannot perform, since, yano...his Mangekyou does the time/space thing, not the Amaterasu/Tsukuyomi/Susanoo thing.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 12:47 AM

Okay, sure it was obito. But i'm still not so sure its his mind and just body. I did read a thing about kishi answering some questions a few weeks ago saying that tobi is someone madara has met but not madara himself. though i honestly can't tell whats true and what some fan made up regarding what kishi said but hopefully there is some truth to this. hopefully it is izuna pulling an orochimaru body switch.

either way, as long as its not obito, the mind, and just the body, i don't really care. if it is, there better be a damn good explanation or this will be as dead to me as the Bleach manga.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 03:17 AM

there better be a damn good explanation


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Posted 31 August 2012 - 03:41 AM

" Kishimoto is a troll " ?


and a damn good one at that, if it is obito 100 percent lol.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 05:30 AM

Eh... if he wants to take control of Sasuke, I've seen this plotline already. >.>

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:15 AM

the theory of "same jutsu, same eye" led to the most unexpected-expected person of all times.... sighs.. orochimaru certainly had something to do with this and probably with the 2nd's revival tech too. maybe he revived izuna O.O lol and then considered it forbidden kin jutsu later.

.his Mangekyou does the time/space thing, not the Amaterasu/Tsukuyomi/Susanoo thing.


true, and i believe your certainly gonna need Tsukuyomi if you want to do a ultimate tsukuyomi to the whole world..

but then again what tobi did to kurama wayyyyyyyy wayyyyyyy earlier was that not tsukuyomi too? O.O

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 01:44 PM

Well there goes all the questions...i remember we said that Tobi is Madara, then madara was revived by Kabuto, so he wasnt. Then he was Shishui, but the option that he was obito the last months wasnt so popular as it used to.

I would love to see the continue on how will they explain that he managed to live from that rock. Is Zetsu for example his saviour or something? Also its kinda a bit too emotional for Kakashi too

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 11:41 PM

true, and i believe your certainly gonna need Tsukuyomi if you want to do a ultimate tsukuyomi to the whole world..

but then again what tobi did to kurama wayyyyyyyy wayyyyyyy earlier was that not tsukuyomi too? O.O


No, it wasn't. Tsukuyomi allows you to project onto the victim's mind a world where you have absolute control of every factor. Itachi was good enough at it to control time within that world as well; Sasuke is not. What Tobi was doing to Kurama was straight mind-control, which is something Uchiha seem to just be able to do for some reason. Sasuke did the same exact thing to Manda before he even fought Itachi.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 02:47 PM

Straight mind control but with the victim to know and watch what is doing. Kurama said in a manga rather to return to the control of madara he prefers naruto if i remember correct.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 02:53 PM

Yea, same as Manda. He knew what was going on when Sasuke mind-controlled him. It's just an Uchiha thing.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 08:16 PM

maybe zetsu brainwashed Obito... lol
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 09:21 PM

Kishi had us all once again. Just read the manga, Tobito is who he's said he is all along, I don't think he's lying. > How? that's the tricky part but we'll see in the next manga won't we
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 09:57 PM

I know... I was kidding. Obito was my theory from the begening.
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 10:06 PM

I couldnt buy that Obito "is" Madara... because that would mean that hes alive in 2 bodys.. and like got 2 same souls in diferent bodies.. but then again when you think about clone jutsus its kidna the same ... so maybe its like this


Madara cloned his consciousness thanks to zetsu and puted it inside Obito... that would make more sense ..
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#76 Raja

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 10:13 PM

If you read through the manga it's quite obvious, he claims he's merely a shell of his former self, he says he wants to create the perfect body, he says he's Madara over and over... the list goes on and on.

I'll just end this with an Itachi quote: "Madara is very much alive. Whether you believe me or not is your choice."
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 03:41 AM

I end it with the manga is out in couple hours from now. If Kishi don't give us a good reason. Burn him on a stake!!!!!
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 05:46 AM

Tobi is one of Madara's horcruxes.

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