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Name: Banshee's Wail
Rank: B
Type: Genjutsu
Fighting Style: Mental
Range: Long
Village Origin: Nagare
Description: The third technique of the Hidden Eye. Upon the completion of a few handseals the user will make the target hear very loud cries and screams inside his head. Obviously, wearing protective equipment would prove ineffective given the fact these effects aren't physical.
Post Duration: 3 posts
Creator: Takahashi Clan (http://www.theninja-forum.com/Vbulletin/showpost.php?p=851547)
Training Time: 9 days
Nekomata Kayangelus
11-09-2009, 17:17
Didn't you just get your last custom accepted? Like, yesterday?
Don't you already have another jutsu in the works?
Still not accepted yet... *points further down the list*
Also a few hours ago i got a new RPC accepted. Thus i'm making my previous jutsu that char's submission since it's lower ranked and i'm making this my primary's submission since it's a rank higher. Plus they're not individual submissions but clan submissions...
Well, individual or clan it doesn't matter since clan jutsu still takes the monthly jutsu slot, but I digress.
As long as you have another character available to use their monthly jutsu, then there should be no problem.
Concerning the jutsu, it doesn't appear to be uber hax or anything. In fact, it looks like something I'd see on the Global Genjutsu list.
Nekomata Kayangelus
11-09-2009, 17:26
Even if they are clan submissions, they take up the application slots of RPCs. As for which:
Jutsus MUST pertain to the empty slots you have. However, In Character, you can only create a custom jutsu higher than your rank by having the aid of an RPC or NPC (NPC'ed by someone other than you) who has the appropriate rank for it. Example: Genin can create B-ranked jutsu for their B-ranked slot but can only create it in character if they have a chuunin or higher help them.
And all your secondary RPC's slots are used up. So you can't use it to apply for jutsu.
@Herabec the only sound affecting genjutsu i found were either D or C ranked. And this can't be put in the global listing else it'd screw up my set of 5 clan Doujutsu techs... @.@
@Neko i made a similar comment a while back when Mehaha was trying to make clan jutsu even though he had no empty slots on his single char. On the same occasion i also talked about it with Shiy and the conclusion was that clan jutsu can be applied this way even if the RPCs in the clan don't have empty slots. You can also see this is true if you check some of the other clan jutsu submitted ever since then...
>_>
Are you saying I could have spent the last five months actually making clan jutsu instead of waiting for my chuunin rank up? *facepalms* Someone needs to make a Clan Jutsu clarification post or thread or something.
And yeah, I wasn't telling you to do that, I was just saying it looked cut and clean enough to be a global jutsu. XD
I'm saying that if you check all the clan submitted jutsu in the archives it's impossible for you not to find such situations... This i know for a fact.
And thanks i guess... *shrugs*
jameshawking
11-09-2009, 19:43
So, other than the fact that this would just be a way to avoid hand-seals, what does this have to do with the eyes?
Hell, it doesn't even affect sight but rather hearing. It's a doujutsu that requires eye contact but it doesn't actually affect the eyes at all, but rather a completely different sense with a different section of the brain in control of it.
Also, you have this listed as a Genjutsu. Genjutsu need hand-seals, as Neko pointed out in the chat threads. Since this is a genjutsu, it requires hand-seals.
Doujutsu aren't necessarily techniques affecting the eyes. They are techniques done with the eyes. That's quite the difference right there as you're confusing the jutsu's purpose with the means with which it is created.
As for the latter part - there are already previously accepted Doujutsu techs not requiring any handseals...
jameshawking
11-09-2009, 19:50
and the third part?
Where this is a genjutsu, not a doujutsu?
And for your second point, there are jutsu that are on the jutsu listings that wouldn't be acceptable as customs. Hell, I had trouble with getting Shintai Fuu accepted even though it had exactly the same output as global-jutsu lists.
Just because there's already a jutsu of X that has Y doesn't mean you get to have an X and Y for everything.
Since it's a technique done with the eyes it's called a Doujutsu. Since what it affects is the brain and the actual effects for that matter aren't physical then it's obviously a genjutsu.
As for the rest of your post i don't see any crit on the actual effects... o.O
Nekomata Kayangelus
11-09-2009, 20:01
Okay, lets go for an actual crit:
a) since you don't mention a lack of hand seals, I'm guessing you are fine with this using hand seals?
b) the "range" section of the jutsu app is only for ninjutsu really. Albeit, consideing this is limited to a distance where you can see each other's eyes, it would be more medium range...
c) so, blind people would be immune to this?
d) does it work if you see their eyes but they don't see your eyes? Does it work if they see your eyes but you don't see their eyes?
e) How accurately do you have to aim at the eyes? Like, say, if someone wore a mask from the same material as the lenses of a sun glass, and it was completely smooth, you might end up missing their eyes by an inch or 2. Would it still work then?
jameshawking
11-09-2009, 20:03
We need to fix the fact that you think you can get no hand-seals just because you require eye-contact ._.
It utilizing the eyes is not a recognized fighting style with special rules (such as not requiring hand-seals). It's simply a method of manipulation. This is especially true in Genjutsu. as such, just because it utilizes the eye doesn't mean it suddenly gets to ignore hand-seals and not need them.
a) It doesn't mention handseals because it clearly mentions it's activated once eye contact is achieved...
b) Oh, didn't actually consider that. Will change...
c) Not sure... I'd say yes but then similar debates have already been had in different parts of the forum and opinions were different each time.
d) They'd need to see the user's eyes...
e) Think of it like a trap if you will. Once the target sees the user's eyes he's trapped in the genjutsu. Hence the reply to the above point as well...
We need to fix the fact that you think you can get no hand-seals just because you require eye-contact ._.
It utilizing the eyes is not a recognized fighting style with special rules (such as not requiring hand-seals). It's simply a method of manipulation. This is especially true in Genjutsu. as such, just because it utilizes the eye doesn't mean it suddenly gets to ignore hand-seals and not need them.
Then go and make a complaint in the Suggestions section as like i said such techniques have already been accepted. A rule change/clarification in this direction would probably also lead to the recall of those techs and thus problem would be fixed...
a) It doesn't mention handseals because it clearly mentions it's activated once eye contact is achieved...
b) Oh, didn't actually consider that. Will change...
c) Not sure... I'd say yes but then similar debates have already been had in different parts of the forum and opinions were different each time.
d) They'd need to see the user's eyes...
e) Think of it like a trap if you will. Once the target sees the user's eyes he's trapped in the genjutsu. Hence the reply to the above point as well...
Then go and make a complaint in the Suggestions section as like i said such techniques have already been accepted. A rule change/clarification in this direction would probably also lead to the recall of those techs and thus problem would be fixed...
Perhaps a compromise between the two sides then? This ability would use handseals, but the 'trap' can remain active for a set number of posts, during which eye contact will activate it?
jameshawking
11-09-2009, 20:14
Well, in that case o.o
Exactly, I never said anything about them getting special rules.
If anything, I was already stating that you two were more correct, since there is already evidence that doujutsu operates within the three categories of jutsu.
Demi says that Doujutsu operate within the bounds of Nin/Gen/tai and hence don't get special rules. As such, they require hand-seals unless explicitly stated that they do not require them (in which case there will have to be something to balance, most likely a cost bump). Just like regular jutsu.
Nekomata Kayangelus
11-09-2009, 20:16
Deep, here is what Demi said:
Exactly, I never said anything about them getting special rules.
If anything, I was already stating that you two were more correct, since there is already evidence that doujutsu operates within the three categories of jutsu.
Basically, the current standing rule, is just because it is doujutsu doesn't automatically mean it does not need hand seals. If you want it to not use hand seals, you need to mention as such.
James does not need to make a complaint. He is asking you to comply with the existing rules. If you want this to not need hand seals without explicitly stating so on the app, you would be the one who needs to make a suggestion (not a complaint. A complaint is for when you are whining), in the suggestion section.
As for the mentioning eye contact thing, let me put it this way. If someone looks into the eyes of an RPC who posesses this genjutsu, does it automatically activate, regardless of the will of either RPC, and run its course (assuming it isn't broken by pain or kai) regardless of the will of either RPC? If your answer is no, your trap analogy doesn't work. You would need hand seals to set up the trap.
Perhaps a compromise between the two sides then? This ability would use handseals, but the 'trap' can remain active for a set number of posts, during which eye contact will activate it?
I already considered such an option and would have no problem implementing it. However i'm not going to do so for this jutsu alone unless the same kind of compromise is applied to all previously accepted techs in a similar situation. After all the argument isn't against this tech in particular but rather in general. As such i would expect a general solution as well...
Well, in that case o.o
Demi says that Doujutsu operate within the bounds of Nin/Gen/tai and hence don't get special rules. As such, they require hand-seals unless explicitly stated that they do not require them (in which case there will have to be something to balance, most likely a cost bump). Just like regular jutsu.
Deep, here is what Demi said:
Basically, the current standing rule, is just because it is doujutsu doesn't automatically mean it does not need hand seals. If you want it to not use hand seals, you need to mention as such.
James does not need to make a complaint. He is asking you to comply with the existing rules. If you want this to not need hand seals without explicitly stating so on the app, you would be the one who needs to make a suggestion (not a complaint. A complaint is for when you are whining), in the suggestion section.
As for the mentioning eye contact thing, let me put it this way. If someone looks into the eyes of an RPC who posesses this genjutsu, does it automatically activate, regardless of the will of either RPC, and run its course (assuming it isn't broken by pain or kai) regardless of the will of either RPC? If your answer is no, your trap analogy doesn't work. You would need hand seals to set up the trap.
You do realize however that by saying the jutsu doesn't require handseals nothing actually changes though right? You'd just have that written down instead of simply implied... Obviously i don't care if i write it down since from my point of view i don't lose anything at all. Is this however what the two of you wanted? o.O
Why would it need handseals to set it up? It's just as simple to just charge the chakra to the eyes and wait for someone to see it and thus be affected by its effects...
jameshawking
11-09-2009, 20:26
Iunno, I'm slightly put-off by a mod being so resistant to change his application so it conforms to current rules, even when the head RP admin actually says that the mod is wrong in this instance.
But, yeah. Throw in that it doesn't need hand-seals. Then we'll see how this looks.
Nekomata Kayangelus
11-09-2009, 20:29
You do realize however that by saying the jutsu doesn't require handseals nothing actually changes though right? You'd just have that written down instead of simply implied...
You mean, it would actually obtain the ability to be used without hand seals in a manner that followed the rules.
Obviously i don't care if i write it down since from my point of view i don't lose anything at all. Is this however what the two of you wanted? o.O
I can't speak for James, but yes, that is what I want. For your jutsu to follow the rules. I know it is such a big request
Well, after that I won't guarantee I will find the jutsu balanced, but that is another issue.
Why would it need handseals to set it up? It's just as simple to just charge the chakra to the eyes and wait for someone to see it and thus be affected by its effects...
I could say the same thing for nearly any nin/genjutsu.
Why would goukakyu require hand seals? It's juast as simple to just charge the chakra to the mouth, and then let it out.
Why would Kasumi Jusha require hand seals? it is just as simple as to build up the chakra anywhere at all in your body, and wait for someone to get in its range.
The answer?
a) balance
b) because you have to mold the chakra (you aren't generating raw, uncontrolled chakra to your eyes. That would be a recipe for permanent blindness and no genjutsu).
You guys did see the edit i made before each of you posted right? Just making sure the matter won't be further argued uselessly...
And for the second part of Neko's post... You mentioned balance. Well this would be a B rank. There are currently 2 genjutsu techs that make the user hear a buzzing sound and hear a river flowing. Both of those techs are D ranked. The fact that this tech would allow them to hear cries and screaming would probably also fall under D rank since it would just be a variation of what's actually heard. I believe each of those techs lasts only 1 post. Since this would last 2 then for balancing purposes it should take 2 D ranks.
The reason however it doesn't cost 2 D ranks but instead costs 1 B ranks is because the sounds are slightly louder. There's already a C ranked genjutsu in which "people from the past bring up crap about the target". Not the exact quote obviously but i believe given the fact that tech uses reproaches and other similar feelings, yelling and raised voices are quite possible. Still this isn't applied as a C rank either but instead as a B rank. That was precisely because i considered the no handseals bonus and thought this way the whole thing would be balanced.
As for the second part of that argument, the one about molding chakra - the canon seems to disagree with you on that. Since your explanation didn't use TNF rules but rather general knowledge and common sense i also believe using the canon as an example is fair. And in the canon you can see individuals using Doujutsu techs without handseals. So such a thing is after all quite possible...
Canon might not be the best example. As I recall, most, if not all, the canon Doujutsu were bloodline-related. And I can't remember seeing a bloodline that required handseals.
Bloodline related or not the point is they were still able to make jutsu with their eyes alone, meaning that Neko's b) point a few posts above wasn't in fact entirely accurate. And that's what i used the canon example to show...
As for the latter, i would agree on most part though Neko did have a point that in some instances said BLs were activated with handseals as well. Take for instance the Byakugan - activated with handseals when it was first showed in the Chunin eliminatory rounds, but just seemed to come naturally every single time afterwards... My guess is that those handseals are required just for the ones still new at it, most likely helping them channel chakra or something.
jameshawking
12-09-2009, 12:23
I don't see your logic here.
You're saying that Doujutsu-based bloodlines should be the basis for regular Doujutsu here?
No, i'm saying that if canon Doujutsu techs can deal with genjutsu without handseals and not make the users blind in the process then the same should be valid here as well since the same principles and mechanics would apply, regardless of whether said techs are part of bloodlines or not...
jameshawking
12-09-2009, 12:40
No, i'm saying that if canon Doujutsu techs can deal with genjutsu without handseals and not make the users blind in the process then the same should be valid here as well since the same principles and mechanics would apply, regardless of whether said techs are part of bloodlines or not...
The entire point of a bloodline, especially a doujutsu, is to enhance and change the eye massively. The eye of a normal person and the eye of a Doujutsu-Bloodline are, obviously, entirely different with massively different mechanics.
It'd be the equivalent of saying people with extended backbones could do some things allowed by Striker's bloodline.
Doujutsu genjutsu that aren't part of bloodlines are already accepted on TNF however, so in here they're obviously not restricted to BLs only. As such i don't quite see where you're going with this... o.O
jameshawking
12-09-2009, 12:51
Doujutsu genjutsu that aren't part of bloodlines are already accepted on TNF however, so in here they're obviously not restricted to BLs only. As such i don't quite see where you're going with this... o.O
o.o
where I'm going with this:
Bloodline related or not the point is they were still able to make jutsu with their eyes alone, meaning that Neko's b) point a few posts above wasn't in fact entirely accurate. And that's what i used the canon example to show...
As for the latter, i would agree on most part though Neko did have a point that in some instances said BLs were activated with handseals as well. Take for instance the Byakugan - activated with handseals when it was first showed in the Chunin eliminatory rounds, but just seemed to come naturally every single time afterwards... My guess is that those handseals are required just for the ones still new at it, most likely helping them channel chakra or something.
You're using The most powerful Kekkai Genkai in Naruto as a reason for why you should have a jutsu, saying "They have it, so I can", in essence.
I say that's a faulty premise. Both in terms of balance, and in the fact that things such as the Byakugan are incalculably different from a normal human eye. As such, you can't use them to reason for things about the normal human eye. The equivalent would be "Jounin can do this, so Civilians can do this".
One is a massive upgrade from the other.
Ok, you seem to read the posts yet at the same time you seem to miss the whole reason they were made in the first place and in the process use what's said there out of context...
Firstly if you had read the above post you would've seen that was merely a reply to Zau's "BLs don't use handseals" statement.
Secondly i'm not using that BL for anything. I don't need to use that BL for anything as like i said before Genjutsu techs involving Doujutsu have already been accepted on TNF in the past. As such it's quite possible to create them already.
jameshawking
12-09-2009, 13:01
Ok, you seem to read the posts yet at the same time you seem to miss the whole reason they were made in the first place and in the process use what's said there out of context...
Firstly if you had read the above post you would've seen that was merely a reply to Zau's "BLs don't use handseals" statement.I know o.o
However, the point being is the fact that he was saying a statement about bloodlines on the whole, not about Doujutsu. You, though, responded by applying it to Doujutsu. Hence, you used Byakugan to transition from bloodlines to Doujutsu.
Secondly i'm not using that BL for anything. I don't need to use that BL for anything as like i said before Genjutsu techs involving Doujutsu have already been accepted on TNF in the past. As such it's quite possible to create them already.Yeah, Doujutsu genjutsu have been accepted in the past o.o You made them. However, just because something was accepted doesn't mean it's actually right.
Canon might not be the best example. As I recall, most, if not all, the canon Doujutsu were bloodline-related. And I can't remember seeing a bloodline that required handseals.
Now from the above it's quite obvious Zau was also referring to Doujutsu BLs as well, and was definitely not excluding them like you seem to think...
And yes i only replied with the Byakugan example because that was a Doujutsu BL, the one that again if you check above he was not excluding from that statement.
And for the record i only have 1 accepted Doujutsu based genjutsu. The other existing ones have different creators. I would appreciate it if you at least got your facts straight before making certain statements...
jameshawking
12-09-2009, 13:12
o.o
If I recall, he made a statement about bloodlines. Would that include Doujutsu-bloodlines? Certainly. But this isn't a Doujutsu-Bloodline, and as such isn't related to his statement where they wouldn't have hand-seals. This isn't a bloodline though o.o
And I apologize if I was under the impression you made other accepted Doujutsu. But the point of what I said remains: just because they were accepted previously doesn't mean they're right currently, just that they were right for that time.
You realize that you are the only one that keeps bringing in Bloodlines to this argument right? You also realize that this jutsu is not a bloodline? If you realize both these things then i have to ask myself why the heck do you keep running around in circles without actually saying anything? I mean yes you keep making up arguments and juggling with them but if you analyze them carefully enough they don't actually amount to anything. You just continue arguing those things even if they don't even have a clear connection with the jutsu at hand. This also isn't politics so i don't see the reason for this either - it's not like you're trying to impress stupid masses by using big words and BS promises... o.O
As for why this is balanced enough not to need handseals, to that i already gave an answer in one of the posts above.
If they were right for that time, which was a bit more than a month ago for my own jutsu and just a couple of days ago for the latest similar one made by Raph, then i would obviously have to ask - what do you imagine changed in a mere matter of hours?
Oirarana
12-09-2009, 13:35
I'm not going to read this whole thing, coz I really don't want to, but from what I've gathered it seems that you think a Doujutsu that isn't a bloodline doesn't need handseals...
Well, I disagree
I'm pretty sure Thermal Vision and Night Vision require handseals, which are global Doujutsu here
Doujutsu are jutsu which affect and alter the eyes...doesn't instantly equal no handseals
Anyway, I'm not going to continue this vein of thought, coz I haven't checked over it, and the only reason I'm posting here is coz I got curious...
jameshawking
12-09-2009, 13:38
As for the second part of that argument, the one about molding chakra - the canon seems to disagree with you on that. Since your explanation didn't use TNF rules but rather general knowledge and common sense i also believe using the canon as an example is fair. And in the canon you can see individuals using Doujutsu techs without handseals. So such a thing is after all quite possible...
Canon might not be the best example. As I recall, most, if not all, the canon Doujutsu were bloodline-related. And I can't remember seeing a bloodline that required handseals.
Bloodline related or not the point is they were still able to make jutsu with their eyes alone, meaning that Neko's b) point a few posts above wasn't in fact entirely accurate. And that's what i used the canon example to show...
As for the latter, i would agree on most part though Neko did have a point that in some instances said BLs were activated with handseals as well. Take for instance the Byakugan - activated with handseals when it was first showed in the Chunin eliminatory rounds, but just seemed to come naturally every single time afterwards... My guess is that those handseals are required just for the ones still new at it, most likely helping them channel chakra or something.
o.o
lemme say this clearly then.
Referencing the underlined above, your exact reasoning is thus: People with Bloodlines could do it without handseals, and as such I should be able to do it without handseals as well.
Meanwhile, I am saying that you can't make decisions about non-bloodline jutsu based on bloodline-jutsu. And as such, you can't use the conditions of a bloodline as evidence for your technique.
I'm not going to read this whole thing, coz I really don't want to, but from what I've gathered it seems that you think a Doujutsu that isn't a bloodline doesn't need handseals...
Perhaps you should've read the whole thing after all... I'm not saying a Doujutsu that's not a bloodline doesn't require handeals. I'm saying this tech in particular doesn't require them as the lack of said seals is balanced by the somewhat weaker effects...
o.o
lemme say this clearly then.
Referencing the underlined above, your exact reasoning is thus: People with Bloodlines could do it without handseals, and as such I should be able to do it without handseals as well.
Meanwhile, I am saying that you can't make decisions about non-bloodline jutsu based on bloodline-jutsu. And as such, you can't use the conditions of a bloodline as evidence for your technique.
You made quite the fuss last time i made a similar deduction based on your own posts on another occasion. You also obviously didn't understood my reasoning at all...
Let's see... My first post and Zau's actually say more or less the same thing... I say that most Doujutsu techs don't use handseals and he says that most Doujutsu techs are actually bloodline related but that yes in fact they don't use handseals. My second post merely shows that exceptions are available however... Now how you came to your conclusion from just the above i have no idea though.
And like i already said above the whole Bloodline argument was brought in by none other than yourself because all i said is that if BL doujutsu based genjutsu can be done without blinding the users then it's not impossible for non-BL doujutsu techs to be done without handseals as well also without blinding the users in the process. Obviously with some drawbacks to keep things balanced. And jutsu not needing handseals is already allowed on TNF. So i basically never used BLs as arguments in my favor as i had no reason to.
Assuming that was understood then i expect the next comments to be crits directly affecting this jutsu, and not all doujutsu techs in general. If you don't like how doujutsu techs work right now then like i said above feel free to submit a complaint in the Suggestions thread. If you don't like the previously accepted techs that do not require hand seals feel free to do the same thing. Stop however making those arguments here since it obviously confuses people who are too lazy to read through the whole thing...
Well dependent on how loud and how insane a person can become via the cries and wails, I'd have to make a judgement.... Is it like 100s of monkeys 10 monkeys that are wailing right next to the guy (perspective wise)
Here's how i thought it out:
Assuming it doesn't require handseals then most targets would just have a hard time hearing what everybody is talking and might also have a harder time concentrating on their jutsu or whatever they're doing. It is after all a known fact that noises tend to distract persons. For targets with a heightened hearing and sensitive ears, some small amount of pain would also be felt in the process.
Assuming it will end up requiring hadnseals then the effects would be more powerful than above, making even normal targets feel some small amount of pain. The ones with good hearing will obviously feel a lot more pain...
So based on your comparison to monkeys, at the moment there'd be 10 or so. With handseals the number would rise to about 50 or something... *shrugs*
Hironidin
13-09-2009, 16:26
Can you use this on multiple targets at one time?
Depends on the rank of the user... If he's genin then no. If he's chunin he might be able to use it on two targets at once. At EJ maybe 3 targets even, provided no other jutsu is used at the same time... *shrugs*
Depends on the rank of the user... If he's genin then no. If he's chunin he might be able to use it on two targets at once. At EJ maybe 3 targets even, provided no other jutsu is used at the same time... *shrugs*
I'd like it if it was static... like 1 for the jutsu or up to 3... TNF doesn't like tiered jutsu
The jutsu would only affect one person per use. What i described above is the total number of users that could be affected at the same time. And that was based on the concentration needed to maintain the jutsu on all targets...
Question. Its called Banshee's Wail, now a Banshee is supposed to be able to kill with its wail. You however describe it, "hear screams and cries,".
What I wonder is, how loud are these? Are they actually Banshee's wails in the sense they are extremely loud/chilling or is it just normal screams and cries? O.o
Somewhere in between, though definitely closer to the normal screaming than the extreme screams that you say can even cause death...
What's I get a staff consensus on the Dojutsu and the non-hand seal stuff... that we should take a vote on... then we'll see about accepting this
It has been deemed that Doujutsu will be restricted to D/E ranks and Special Ranked Jutsu only
Alright, added in handseals...
If the new limitation is on no handseals, and not doujutsu, shouldn't it be actually SAID that the new limitation is on no handseals, and not doujutsu?
Because, handseals or not, this is still a doujutsu. And, going by what Shiyana just said (twice), doujutsu need to be E/D ranked.
Description: The third technique of the Hidden Eye. Upon the completion of a few handseals the user will make the target hear very loud cries and screams inside his head. Obviously, wearing protective equipment would prove ineffective given the fact these effects aren't physical.
Just quoting the description here...
Now i just have to ask - what part of this made you think with such certainty that this is still a doujutsu?
Alright, I suppose it's not a Doujutsu.
My statement still stands in general though. I'll bring that up later, here isn't the place for it.
Onto an effective critique.
Now that you are required to have handseals, what's the "power level" of this jutsu? Since I think I remember you saying that the lack of handseals was balancing a weaker effect...and now that there are handseals, is there a new level of potency?
As for why I thought it was still a Doujutsu, I didn't go back and read the original post, I was responding based on what you said you changed. The only thing you said you changed was that it now included handseals, you didn't mention that you in fact changed the jutsu to make it no longer a Doujutsu.
Already answered that question a few posts above... It included both the power level w/o handseals and the power level /w handseals.
Perhaps you could include the new potency in the original post?
It didn't include the old potency either because i did not want it to be restricted by stats.
Sonikku Himei [Sonic Scream]
Rank: B
Requirements: Utsusemi no Jutsu [Projection Technique].
Description: This jutsu amplifies the volume at which one speaks to incredibly loud ranges. The user holds their hands up around their mouth and they scream, directing the sound ahead of them. The pitch and the tone also increase, catching those ahead of them in a field of high-pitched, incredibly loud noise.
Here's a ninjutsu variant of this... Its potency is apparently "incredibly loud noises". My tech's is simply "very loud cries and screams"... *shrugs*
*shrugs*
Alright then, that's your choice, I suppose.
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